[Rockhounds] [ADMIN] Rockhounds Website Pee Ess

Tue Mar 17 10:56:24 PDT 2009

Thanks for the crystal clear clarification, Julie. It filled in the gaps in
my understanding of what Don had mentioned earlier.
Kriegh, your comment is most appreciated as well. The toughest problem is
coming up with topics *and *pictures *and* the basic questions. Unlike most
of you who provide learned, sensible answers, I've not been blessed with
formal training, and haven't had the resources, opportunities & support to
pursue such, so you can understand my reluctance to post questions. I'm
afraid of looking and feeling like a dope.

I am sure, as I've told many friends in the past, that "there are no stupid
questions, just stupid people who don't ask questions." I am also sure that,
at points in recent months, I've posted or reacted to posts in a sarcastic
and incendiary manner. I'll strive to keep politics & incendiary
governmental issues to a minimum in future posts, and will try to put forth
a "sarcasm warning" before nipping at anyones ankle.  };)

I hope that others who might feel intimidated by less than kindly & clearly
phrased criticisms will not be deterred from participating in this fine
elist. I will do my best to be kind, courteous and gentlemanly to anyone who
might inadvertently present such in the future, realizing that what seems
mean or condescending to me may simply be how that person is in daily life,
or that I may have upset them with an ill expressed opinion. If there's a
conflicting and well expressible opinion or fact on most any subject, I am
the first one who wishes to hear it. Ignorance is a self inflicted curse.

I'll save the deep "bio" for the forthcoming website, and simply say that
the circumstances of my life are such that the privilege of advertising on
the Rockhounds elist is currently my single best way of promoting our
business. Though helpful, Don's (off list) suggestions on entering the
dealer business the traditional way isn't an option for me in terms of time,
money or practicality. I appreciate his concern, and hope that he will
continue to offer solid advice to newbies.

In closing, I really appreciate the ongoing business related posts such as
"So you want to be a dealer?" Thank you, elist members.

Julie, thanks again for your, John's, Don's and every contributing members
efforts to make this already great elist better & better.

Kris Rowe
Fresno, California
Blog/Gallery: R&R Rockhound <http://r-and-r-rockhound.blogspot.com/>

On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Julie Siebel <
julie at pandemoniumgraphics.com> wrote:

>
> Hey, Kris - yep, you're allowed to have a blog/gallery link at the end of
> your post. You could actually add a link to your ebay store, as well. Keep
> the
> sig line no more than three lines, including your name. (That's what I
> meant by
> sig in that rule posting - I'll clarify that in the actual rules;). So you
> could
> do your name, your blog/gallery and your ebay store if you wanted.
>
> What I don't want to see in the signature line is, say, "New products just
> in!" and a link. (Unless it's an ad post, of course.)
>
> And here it is 10pm and I'm wide awake. May be time to finally try one of
> those Ambien thingies.
>
> Julie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kris Rowe" <lapidary.specialties at gmail.com>
> To: "Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A
> mailing list for rock and gem collectors" <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] [ADMIN] Rockhounds Website Pee Ess
>
> > Hi Julie,
> >              I second Don's post. I'm
> sticking to one AD post per month,
> > and will be paying more attention to
> accepted style points.
> > On clarification, is it still acceptable to add a
> Blog/Gallery link at the
> > end of my posts? Inquiring minds want to know!
> };)
> >
> > Be sure and catch up on your sleep!
> >
> >
> Kris
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Julie Siebel
> <
> > julie at pandemoniumgraphics.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Excuse the grammar in that post; we housesat for
> someone last night with 5
> >> big dogs to go along with our 2 big dogs
> and I didn't get much sleep. Just
> >> now getting coffee and re-read
> that and went "Yikes!"
> >>
> >> J.
> >> ----- Original
> Message ----- From: "Julie Siebel" <
> >> julie at pandemoniumgraphics.com>
> >>
> To: "Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A
> mailing list for rock and gem collectors"
> >> <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
> >>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 12:29 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds]
> [ADMIN] About the rockhounds website.
> >>
> >>
> >>  I can
> put clarifications of stuff on the website. The actual "rules"
> will
> >>> to be *very* brief compared to wht they are now, so yeah,
> they'll probably
> >>> fit fine in an email. I'm not sure how much
> control we have over the
> >>> contents of the confirmation email (I'm
> assuming at least SOME, haven't
> >>> looked
> yet(.
> >>>
> >>> I've never actually joined a list where
> the rules were in the
> >>> confirmation; I've hit them where they
> were sent in the "Welcome" email,
> >>>
> though.
> >>>
> >>> Our ad policy is pretty
> basic:
> >>>
> >>> Include [AD] in the header. No more one
> ad per month. No "extra mentions"
> >>> of your business and sales in
> regular list emails. You must contribute as
> >>> a regular list
> member in order to post ads. You may include a link to your
> >>>
> site, as a sig line, though it must include your name as
> well.
> >>>
> >>> Pretty simple,
> really.
> >>>
> >>> There are always exceptions but for ads,
> they're pretty few and far
> >>> between. As a matter of fact, I can
> only think of one: If someone asks, on
> >>> list, where to find a
> very specific item, e.g. the "OreRockOn DVD" or
> >>> "Heulandite from
> the Rat's Nest Mine", Tim or John C. can answer ;). I'd
> >>> expect a
> lot of that sort of stuff to actually be handled off list,
> >>>
> though, perhaps with simply an email TO the list that says "I will
> contact
> >>> you offlist."
> >>>
> >>> (Note:
> Currently the rules said something to the affect of 2 per month,
> >>>
> but that we prefer one per month, or something like that. For four
> years,
> >>> though, everyone's pretty much stuck to once per month,
> so I'm making that
> >>> a hard, fast, rule, unless I hear a really
> brilliant argument against
> >>> that.
> ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> Julie
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message
> ----- From: "DonH" <donhalterman at q.com>
> >>> To:
> "Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing
> list for rock and gem collectors"
> >>> <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
> >>>
> Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:32 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds]
> [ADMIN] About the rockhounds
> website.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> This sounds great.  Another minor suggestion: since this is
> a
> >>>> "double-confirmed opt-in" subscription, as we say in the
> anti-spam world,
> >>>> the confirmation message could also include
> a copy of the rules in the
> >>>> way it is sent now once the
> subscription is complete.  The message could
> >>>> say
> "confirmation of the subscription implies that you have read
> and
> >>>> agree to abide by all the rules and policies of the list
> as written
> >>>> below."  Other lists do that, so it wouldn't be
> unique.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, a clarification, with
> examples, of the ad policy.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> Best,
> >>>> Don
> >>>>
> >>>>
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