[Rockhounds] BLM & Forest Service Geocommunicator: Do you use it?

[Tim]

The existence (or lack thereof) of the mill is documented in the LR2000
reports, at least it is for the few mines I looked up. I agree that L2000 is
a pain, but it is the official source of BLM mining claim information, not
Geocommunicator. Once you have the reports down, it is easy to get all the
information that the BLM has on a particular claim. 

Tim Fisher 
Ore-ROCK-On! 
Email address at http://OreRockOn.com


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[mailto:rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com] On Behalf Of Lanny R
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors
Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] BLM & Forest Service Geocommunicator: Do you use
it?

The closest archive with much information on mines was that gathered  
into MAS/MILS by the ex-US Bureau of Mines, and US Geol. Survey. Other  
than that, the good sources are the many USGS, US BofM and state Geol.  
Survey reports on mines and mining districts. The latter is where the  
MAS/MILS data came from.

Acutally, MAS/MILS is old stuff now, it hasn't been updated since 1999  
when it was migrated into the other USGS system MRDS. This is online at:
http://tin.er.usgs.gov/mrds/

You can search in several ways, see locations on a map or on Googlel  
Earth and even download the data and set up your own database on your  
computer.

As to mill sites. They don't really indicate a fairly active past or  
present mine. If you mean an actual mill, then one might think it  
means that there is, or was mining, but very commonly that might only  
mean speculation, the mill was set up, but the mine never operated, or  
one load of ore went through the mill and it was shutdown because they  
couldn't figure our the chemistry to get the metals out, or the metals  
weren't really there or... ? If you mean mill site, as in the special  
mining claim staked as a mill site with the thought in mind that a  
site for a mill will be needed, then there are thousands of those that  
were located, but the mine was never developed or the mill was never  
built. A mill site doesn't really indicate anything without more  
information.

As to LR2000 vs. Geocommunicator. LR2000 was designed by software  
engineers who have the head stuck in the days of DOS or early Windows.  
It is not user friendly and can be a pain to use. The instructions for  
it are about as long as the total data. Most of the information in it  
can be easily obtained through Geocomminucator which is easy to use.

Regards,

Lanny




On Jun 14, 2009, at 2:19 PM, paintricks at aol.com wrote:

> Really?? Thats waht I am looking for.? It would be nice to have an  
> archive that gives details about a perticular mine rather than just  
> general info.?Just imagine how many past away with great secrets.
> The Geocomunicator is a great tool tho.
> ? Kevin
>
>
> If you really
> want to know all the nitty gritty details and want to look for clues  
> such as
> mill sites which would indicate a fairly active past or present  
> mine, I
> suggest you use the BLM's LR2000 site which is where Geocommunicator  
> pulls
> the claim records from.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim <nospam at orerockon.com>
> To: 'Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem  
> collectors' <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
> Sent: Sun, Jun 14, 2009 1:27 pm
> Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] BLM & Forest Service Geocommunicator: Do  
> you use it?
>
>
>
> How fast they get the info up depends on the district, the Vale  
> District
> here in OR gets their claim info up in days, they had 2009 renewed  
> claims
> which were due on Oct. 1 2008 online less than a week later. If you  
> really
> want to know all the nitty gritty details and want to look for clues  
> such as
> mill sites which would indicate a fairly active past or present  
> mine, I
> suggest you use the BLM's LR2000 site which is where Geocommunicator  
> pulls
> the claim records from.
>
> Tim Fisher
> Ore-ROCK-On!
> Email address at http://OreRockOn.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com
> [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com] On Behalf Of
> OnyxCollector at aol.com
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:09 PM
> To: rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com
> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] BLM & Forest Service Geocommunicator: Do  
> you use
> it?
>
> I use the topo maps as a base, and find mines using the identify   
> button.
> This shows you where mines are and their names. Then if I'm   
> interested I'll
>
> look at the records.  But if there is a claim recorded,  active or  
> not, the
> mine location is identified on whatever map base you use.  Yes, the  
> mines
> not in BLM records are old or simply never were recorded. It is  my
> experience that BLM claiim records are months behind being listed   
> online.
> David
>
>
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