[Rockhounds] help w/BLM policy and practices for access tocollecting sites

[Horst Windisch]

Hi List,

On many farms in South Africa we have the same type oif "gate" as described 
by TC. We come across many of these on ourcollecting trips.

Am now on an ADSL connection and am surprised how quick this e-mail now 
works.

Regards,

Horst
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Corson" <corson at infodyn.com>
To: <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] help w/BLM policy and practices for access 
tocollecting sites


> Don,
>
> Your description of the "fence" raises a question.
>
> You stated:
>
> "The blocked side roads look like they had been gated or cattle-guarded
> at one time,  but had recently been blocked with crude wooden fence
> posts bound by barbed wire, and hooked to the existing fence by loops of
> barbed wire."
>
> This is the way many "gates" in such fences are in fact constructed, at
> least here in AZ.
>
> They are crude wooden fence posts (sometime just sticks or small tree 
> limbs)
> strung together  with barbed wire. The post on one end of this "gate" is
> then attached to the adjoining post of the real fence with a 2 loops of
> barbed wire. The bottom loop is permanently attached to the fence post. 
> The
> top loop is slipped over the top of the fence post.
>
> One then lifts the top loop in order to allow the "gate" to be moved aside
> by lifting its post out of the fixed bottom loop.
>
> Was the barbed wire loop in your case not removable without literally
> cutting it?
>
> TC
>
> ________________________________
>
> Thomas W. Corson OBG Gems & Minerals
> corson at infodyn.com Green Valley, AZ 85614
>
> http://www.obgrocks.com
> World-Class Minerals For World-Class Collectors
> ________________________________
>
>
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:39:54 -0600
>> From: DonH <donhalterman at q.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] help w/BLM policy and practices for access
>> to collecting sites
>> To: nospam at orerockon.com, "Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A
>> mailing list for
>> rock and gem collectors" <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
>> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP44B692A7BC8C2B7424A230C5470 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Tim wrote:
>> > Just a couple quick observations based on my own
>> experience. I ran across a
>> > similar situation on mixed private/BLM land near Vantage WA.
>>
>>
>> Wow, that is very similar to my experience--a wind farm,
>> "guards," and
>> attempts to block access.  Thanks for the advice about
>> calling the county.
>>
>> The blocked side roads look like they had been gated or
>> cattle-guarded
>> at one time,  but had recently been blocked with crude wooden fence
>> posts bound by barbed wire, and hooked to the existing fence
>> by loops of
>> barbed wire.  I considered doing a "right of way transit," in BLM
>> landscape tradition, by cutting the wire and closing the fence with a
>> piece of chain and a lock when I left, but something didn't
>> seem right
>> about the situation and I wasn't sure I'd be justified.
>>
>> I'll make some phone calls tomorrow.
>>
>> I found some neat specimens and was toying with the idea of
>> claiming it
>> long enough to take a load of material (there were abundant crusts of
>> green and blue weathered copper secondaries, which justifies
>> exploring
>> it for disseminated copper as a locatable resource), but
>> given all the
>> hub-bub around the area, I'm not sure I want the hassle.
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>>
>>
>
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