[Rockhounds] help w/BLM policy and practices for access to collecting sites

[Tom Corson]

Don,

Your description of the "fence" raises a question.

You stated:

"The blocked side roads look like they had been gated or cattle-guarded 
at one time,  but had recently been blocked with crude wooden fence 
posts bound by barbed wire, and hooked to the existing fence by loops of 
barbed wire." 

This is the way many "gates" in such fences are in fact constructed, at
least here in AZ.

They are crude wooden fence posts (sometime just sticks or small tree limbs)
strung together  with barbed wire. The post on one end of this "gate" is
then attached to the adjoining post of the real fence with a 2 loops of
barbed wire. The bottom loop is permanently attached to the fence post. The
top loop is slipped over the top of the fence post.

One then lifts the top loop in order to allow the "gate" to be moved aside
by lifting its post out of the fixed bottom loop.

Was the barbed wire loop in your case not removable without literally
cutting it?

TC

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Thomas W. Corson	 	 OBG Gems & Minerals	 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 21:39:54 -0600
> From: DonH <donhalterman at q.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] help w/BLM policy and practices for	access
> 	to	collecting sites
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> Tim wrote:
> > Just a couple quick observations based on my own 
> experience. I ran across a
> > similar situation on mixed private/BLM land near Vantage WA. 
> 
> 
> Wow, that is very similar to my experience--a wind farm, 
> "guards," and 
> attempts to block access.  Thanks for the advice about 
> calling the county.
> 
> The blocked side roads look like they had been gated or 
> cattle-guarded 
> at one time,  but had recently been blocked with crude wooden fence 
> posts bound by barbed wire, and hooked to the existing fence 
> by loops of 
> barbed wire.  I considered doing a "right of way transit," in BLM 
> landscape tradition, by cutting the wire and closing the fence with a 
> piece of chain and a lock when I left, but something didn't 
> seem right 
> about the situation and I wasn't sure I'd be justified.
> 
> I'll make some phone calls tomorrow.
> 
> I found some neat specimens and was toying with the idea of 
> claiming it 
> long enough to take a load of material (there were abundant crusts of 
> green and blue weathered copper secondaries, which justifies 
> exploring 
> it for disseminated copper as a locatable resource), but 
> given all the 
> hub-bub around the area, I'm not sure I want the hassle.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
> 
>