[Rockhounds] help w/BLM policy and practices for access to collecting sites

DonH donhalterman at q.com
Sun Jun 7 10:38:36 PDT 2009


Greetings collectors,

I have some experience with BLM land, but nothing like this.  Some of 
you have a vast amount of experience, especially with odd situations, 
and might be able to point me in the right direction.  I realize that 
the ultimate answer will be "contact the BLM," but the person to whom 
I've already spoken wasn't much help.

My mission was to find an old tremolite mine and collect some samples 
for a colleague in the USGS.  Since I was off the clock, I was on 
"unofficial gov't business" and therefore was only operating under the 
rights and privileges afforded to every citizen.

I called the Utah BLM office and asked about the status of the property. 
I knew the mine had been long closed and satellite photos showed a 
remediated property, but you never know who might still have a claim. 
The woman could find no record of the mine, which surprises me.  I gave 
her the lat/long and UTM coordinates, but she insisted on having the 
township & range, so I had to go dig that information out of MAS/MILS 
(thanks Gary for selling the MAS/MILS data!)  By the way, she had never 
heard of MAS/MILS either. (And shouldn't the BLM be using point 
coordinates by now, instead of a system in vogue when dinosaurs were 
roaming the earth?)  In any case, she determined that there was no 
activity in that entire section.  So far, so good.

I went out there yesterday, and as I rounded the northern point of the 
mountain range, I was surprised to see a lot of activity--harvesters, 
trucks, and new fences.  As I passed an access road that was on the map, 
I noticed a section of fence across it--not a gate, but a fence.  That 
option was out.  However the map showed another road that would bring me 
close to the site.  As I drove on the "main" county road (graded and 
gravelled dirt), looking for one of the several access roads that would 
eventually take me where I wanted to go, I kept being blocked by fence, 
even though a side road was clearly there.

Finally I saw some large water tank trucks entering a filling station 
through a gate, so I followed them in and talked to one of the drivers. 
  While he was informative, he was also a bit firm in insisting that 
this was private property and they were building a wind farm.  I 
expressed surprise, since the BLM had told me this land was completely 
clear; I asked if he meant they had a lease, and he said no, as far as 
he knew they owned the land.  I pointed out that there were no signs, 
and as far as I knew, no one could block access to BLM land whether or 
not they owned the adjacent land outright.  He said, "well, if someone 
sees you out here without a safety vest and hardhat, they're going to 
come and get you."  At that point I had all the useful information this 
fellow could offer, so I told him I would handle any situations as they 
arose, and I was still going to exercise my rights to access the BLM 
land, and thanked him for his time.  I should mention that the 
construction in question was apparently far down the road, out of sight, 
and the area in which I was operating was nothing but rangeland and 
mountains.

I drove a little further down the road and saw a new cattle guard across 
the final side access road I could have used.  Finally!  I rumbled down 
the road and found my target.

My questions are these, then:

1.  Isn't the BLM supposed to keep track of current land use?  Why 
didn't they know about all this activity in the section?

2.  If someone has erected a fence across what is clearly an access road 
to BLM land, what course of action do I have?  Must I file a written 
complaint?  And to whom?

3.  Would it be worth my time to even call again and ask to speak to 
someone else about the situation?

Any advice about what to say, what to document, and how to file a 
complaint would be appreciated.  Also, if I have misunderstood the 
legalities of the situation, please let me know so I can approach this 
from the correct aspect.

Thanks,
Don




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