[Rockhounds] quartz sphere -> quartz hydrocarbon inclusions

[Jeffrey T. Cessna]

Dave, Axel, Anybody,

What color do your hydrocarbon inclusions fluoresce and under what wavelength?

I bought some DT Quartz xtals (location: Duetta Balochistan, 
Pakistan) today. I see bright blue under SW and slightly less bright 
under LW. I couldn't tell if I was just seeing internal flaws 
reflecting the small amount of visible blue from the lamp. I did run 
the lamp over the whole tray and only saw the blue in some of them.

I thought the inclusion I had seen in the past fluoresced 
yellow/green. Thoughts?

Thanks,
Jeff

PS Does anybody else call these "Herkimers" Pakimers?


At 02:27 PM 9/27/2008, you wrote:
>Dave,
>
>Is this in crystals ore massive quartzite? The crystals that I'm talking
>about are only about 1 cm (0,39 in) or less in size. The Afghan quartz
>inclusion are a few millimetres.
>Very pretty indeed but small. I can send a photo off list to any who wants
>it.
>
>Axel
>
>
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> > Namens betdav97 at aol.com
> > Verzonden: vrijdag 26 september 2008 22:47
> > Aan: rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] quartz sphere question
> >
> > Axel,
> >   Our quartz from WV that has petroleum and
> > carbon inclusions, that fluoresce also.
> > dave
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Axel Emmermann <axel.emmermann at pandora.be>
> > To: 'Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem
> > collectors' <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
> > Sent: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 2:46 pm
> > Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] quartz sphere question
> >
> >
> >
> > I have dome "herkimer quartz" from Afghanistan.
> > The gas bubbles inside contain a naturally cracked petroleum with
> > methane
> > bubbles, petroleum and asphalt. All very nicely fluorescent too.
> > The bubbles sometimes show a "negative" quartz crystal shape. As if a
> > small
> > quartz crystal inside dissolved somehow. Rather puzzling.
> >
> > Axel
> >
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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> > [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com]
> > > Namens Pmodreski at aol.com
> > > Verzonden: vrijdag 26 september 2008 4:29
> > > Aan: rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com
> > > Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] quartz sphere question
> > >
> > > I'll try too...
> > >
> > > Almost all quartz crystal will have some imperfections--fractures or
> > cloudy
> > > patches or inclusions.  If it does have them (check it out with a
> > magnifying
> > > lens), it's probably confirmed as quartz.  If it has none, if it  is
> > > absolutely clear with no flaws at all, it is likely glass.
> > >
> > > Along the same line, to be more sure; scrutinize any such
> > imperfections
> > > closely.  If they are bubbles, little spherical ones, it is probably
> > glass.  If
> > > they are lines or planes of some sort, then, quartz.   If you don't
> > see
> > ANY
> > > such things of any sort--well, as I said, I'd suspect  glass, but one
> > couldn't be
> > > absolutely certain.
> > >
> > > Look at in under a black light too.  A lot of glass fluoresces, at
> > least
> > > slightly; most quartz does not, except for any inclusion particles
> > perhaps.
> > >
> > > Measuring the specific gravity is probably "easier said than done".
> > One
> > > easy way; weigh it on an accurate balance, then measure the diameter
> > with
> > an
> > > accurate pair of calipers, and calculate the volume and then the
> > specific
> > > gravity, using "simple geometry which everyone remembers (ha ha) from
> > high
> > school &
> > > college math & physics.  Quartz should be very close to  2.65 grams
> > per
> > cubic
> > > centimter; glass, as Kreigh says, should be somewhat  less.
> > >
> > > P.S., I just tried looking this up (density of glass), and the two
> > are so
> > > close, it would not be very reliable to use density to distinguish
> > them,
> > I'm
> > > afraid.  I find the density of common "crown" glass to be around 2.5
> > g/cc,
> > but
> > > can vary from 2.4 to 2.8, and "flint glass" and lead crystal (which is
> > glass)
> > > are even higher.  Oh well.
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Pete
> > >
> > >
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