[Rockhounds] A most exciting method of collecting...

Pmodreski at aol.com Pmodreski at aol.com
Sun Nov 30 08:16:06 PST 2008


One of our known meteorites found in Colorado, the Cotopaxi iron meteorite  
(that's west of Canon City, along the Arkansas River) was found by a couple  
who were trying out their new metal detector for the first time. The meteorite  
was subsequently donated to the Denver Museum of Nature & Science.
 
Pete
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2008 9:12:38 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
mstreman53 at yahoo.com writes:


Hello JR,

1969 was the year for two major meteorite falls:  Allende in Mexico and 
Murchison in Australia, but I don't recall a report you  mention nor if any 
meteorites were recovered in North America. You'll need a  date and general location 
to do any more research.

The initiative to  look for meteorites in tramp/mining iron was started by Dr 
Andrew Sicree  whilst on staff at Penn State.  I don't know the results of 
his study  other than what he told me early on: spoiled credit cards and ruined 
watches  that were zapped by the electromagnets.

Of widely seen fireballs of  size which can drop meteorites,which have an end 
trajectory over land, result  in recovery 30%+ of the time now days.  I know 
of two in Pennsylvania  which should have produced meteorites but for which no 
fragments were  recovered. One was in the vicinity of New Holland and the 
other vic the "Grand  Canyon of Pennsylvania/Sprague State Forest/Wellsboro.   
Both had  good trajectory data from satellites but ended in very rugged/forested 
 areas.

As for finds in coal fields,I have recovered several siderite  masses which 
resemble meteorites in form and am looking for a researcher that  would like to 
analyze them.  While they are very heavy--much more so than  normal siderite 
nodules I've not found native iron yet even though some pieces  seem to be 
attracted to a magnet.

There are some internet lists you  could join that might give you a heads up 
on when it is practical to start  searching after a fireball sighting.  
Generally speaking, owing to an  optical illusion, 90% of sighters think that the 
meteorite landed" just over  the hill" from them and that is glowed all the way 
to the ground.  A  meteor can be seen no more than 250 miles away, is usually 
120 miles above  ground when it starts glowing (incandescesing)and no less 
than 5 miles high  when it stops glowing.

Steve Arnold (American Meteorite Brokers and  Brenham Meteorite Company) from 
Arkansas and Greensburg, Kansas respectively  --along with his partners are 
recovering pallasite-type meteorites named  Brenham,  in and around there. They 
were believed to have fallen around  the end of the last ice cap retreat.

Finally, most hunters do use metal  detectors within known fields as roughly 
85% of meteorites contain free  metal.  The most valuable meteorites-- 
achondrites from the Moon and  Mars, generally don't have free metal that will 
trigger the detector so  keeping a sharp eye out and looking at a lot of meteorite 
photos will raise  the odds of recovery. a lot of meteorites are found by 
farmers when plowing  and get used for years as a harrow ballast or a door stop 
until someone comes  along and says...hummmm...funny rock you got  here....

Regards,
Eman


--- On Sun, 11/30/08, J. R. Hodel  <jr50wv at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: J. R. Hodel  <jr50wv at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Rockhounds] A most exciting method  of collecting...
> To: rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com
> Date:  Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:06 AM
> Waiting for a rock to fall from  the sky and explode just
> above a rural community!
> 
> I  saw a noteworthy meteor back in 1969, my (then
> girlfriend) wife and I  were driving to my parent's house
> after work around midnight, and the  landscape lit up
> brighter than mid-day.  We each leaned out the  car windows
> and looked up to see a streak of brilliant light  from
> horizon to horizon, (SSW to NNE)!
> 
> It quickly  dimmed, but when it first lit up I actually
> thought it was a atomic  weapon of some sort!  That's
> how bright it was, like the end of  the world.
> 
> The newswires quickly reported that it was seen  from North
> Carolina to upper NY state, and must have just grazed  the
> upper atmosphere.  It was like a huge fluorescent  tube
> across the entire sky, and if it had just a few degrees
>  different course it would have landed in the south
> somewhere.
>  
> My family growing up was night-owls as my Dad worked nights
>  putting out a morning newspaper, so I've seen more
> meteors and such  than most non-astronomers. We live in the
> country as well, which make  it possible to see comets and
> meteorites and such, compared to the  city lights.  Very
> interesting rocks indeed! 
> 
>  What are the odds of self-collecting one of these babies? 
> I  suppose you could metal-detect around known landing sites
> and increase  the odds a little...  Isn't this how that
> big meteorite full of  crystals displayed in Tuscon a couple
> of years ago was found?   Hi-tech metal detectors in
> Nebraska or somewhere like  that...IIRC.  
> 
> I read once about a geology (or maybe  astronomy?) professor
> who asked mining companies to provide him metal  junk,
> removed from the beltways of underground mines by power
>  electromagnets intended to keep metal tools from messing up
> crushing  machinery, in hopes of finding ancient nickle-iron
> meteorites, does  this ring a bell with anyone?
> 
> JR in WV
> 
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