[Rockhounds] green county Pa.

betdav97 at aol.com betdav97 at aol.com
Tue Nov 25 09:29:41 PST 2008


Well Dora, I wasn't really trying to start an argument, so I'll try and 
explain.
First Pennsylvania is a fairly large state, although not as large as 
Texas and
has quite a mixture of rock, from sedimentary to metamorphic. Luzern
County is located in the north central leaning toward the eastern part;
hope that makes sense, look at a map. Greene and Fayette Counties are
located in the extreme south west corner separated by the Mon River.
The coals and strata in general take a dive when you cross the river 
going
west, which makes collecting in the coals of Greene County rather 
difficult.
In Luzern and other counties in that area, the coals are closer to the 
surface
which allows for surface mining and makes for a lot easier collecting. 
He could
just have easily have asked for calcite and quartz from Cambria, 
Westmoreland
or other coal producing counties in the western part of the state. 
Cambria
has many more mines than either Greene or Fayette, and most are surface
mines. I was asking for clarification, not an argument; I just figured 
Steve
was not familar with the area and asked a broad question and to help, 
we
may need to narrow the field so to speak. Also, there are several types 
of coal
or coal seams in both Greene and Fayette. In the Luzern area you are 
talking
mainly about one kind of coal only.
dave


-----Original Message-----
From: Dora Smith <tiggernut24 at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 11:10 am
Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] green county Pa.


Don't really know - but maybe he specifically wants to know if Greene 
County quartz and calcite located near Greene County coal flouresces, 
and he already knows that Fayette County quartz and calcite flouresce 
because they and/or their coal are more wonderful? You admit that these 
minerals don't flouresce from some locations in Pennsylvania, and maybe 
once he does his research we'll know about a third location. 
 
Sorry, but I always love it when someone asks for something specific 
and all they can get is an argument about why they don't really want 
exactly what they asked for. 
 
Yours, 
Dora Smith 
Austin, TX 
tiggernut24 at yahoo.com 
 
----- Original Message ----- From: <betdav97 at aol.com> 
To: <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:27 AM 
Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] green county Pa. 
 
> Hi Steve, 
> First a question; why Greene County over Fayette County? 
> Fayette has more surface mines, while the ones in Greene are 
> deep mines and unless you know a miner, you won't be able to 
> collect and he probably won't, as they have over things on their 
> minds. The surface of Greene County is mainly the Dunkard 
> Formation, which is leaning toward the Permian, surfac
e coals are 
> poor and thin. Will another area do? 
> Luzern is more in the anthracite belt, and has a lot of quartz; I've 
> collected around Frackville and St. Clair, and have several 
> specimens of quartz with dickite, but have never checked 
> the fluorescence, but I suppose dickite may be an inhibitor. 
> The coals in western Pa. are bituminous, and rarely have quartz 
> associated with them. I only know of two exceptions, both in 
> the Pittsburgh seam, but one was in Tucker County, WV, and 
> the other in Garrett County, MD. I have quartz from both localities 
> and it doesn't fluoresce. 
 
> Dave in Monongalia County, WV 
> we border on both Greene and Fayette Counties. 



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