[Rockhounds] FW: FOSSIL HUNTING HOBBY IN DANGERFw: PublicLandUsage Bills

[Dora Smith]

OK, so one can be on public land, but one may not hunt fossils?   LOL! 
Just don't let the forest ranger see you hunting!

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX
tiggernut24 at yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Trapp" <rick.trapp at azgs.az.gov>
To: "Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem collectors" 
<rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] FW: FOSSIL HUNTING HOBBY IN DANGERFw: 
PublicLandUsage Bills


> It doesn't matter anyway. Every National Forest District Manager, and some 
> NF's have several districts, has the authority to prohibit ANY activity 
> they don't want to happen in their district. That includes rockhounding 
> and fossil collecting.
>
> In general, not pointing at any particular person, instead of wasting our 
> time protesting perennial bills that never are going to pass, wouldn't it 
> be a better use of our time to try to pass legislation that ensures our 
> right to recreate on public lands in a particular fashion? I think we 
> might have an decent chance of protecting recreational activities if we 
> support strong regulation of for-profit activities.
>
> This bill is intended to regulate for-profit activities. And every year, 
> invariably, a bunch of recreational mineral and fossil enthusiasts get 
> conned into preventing this bill from being considered. In general, these 
> kinds of protests of these kinds of bills are encouraged and publicized by 
> individuals who want to protect their "right" to extract minerals and 
> fossils from OUR public lands FOR PROFIT without paying for the privilege 
> of removing large quantities of minerals and fossils that belong to 
> EVERYONE COLLECTIVELY. There are procedures in place that regulate how 
> minerals and invertebrate fossils may be extracted for profit, but these 
> individuals do not want to pay the fees. It's that simple.
>
> Just sayin'.....
>
>
>
>
> Gene Hartstein - Fossilnut.com wrote:
>> Note it says "may", not 'should" or 'must".
>>
>> Gene Hartstein
>> Newark, DE
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Brown" 
>> <gbrown at catspaw-minerals.com>
>> To: "'Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem 
>> collectors'" <rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com>
>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 2:27 PM
>> Subject: RE: [Rockhounds] FW: FOSSIL HUNTING HOBBY IN DANGER Fw: 
>> PublicLandUsage Bills
>>
>>
>>> Read the whole bill here:
>>> http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-3213
>>>
>>> Here's clause 644:
>>> (2) CASUAL COLLECTING EXCEPTION- The Secretary may allow casual 
>>> collecting
>>> without a permit on Federal land controlled or administered by the 
>>> Bureau of
>>> Land Management, the Bureau of Reclamation, and the Forest Service, 
>>> where
>>> such collection is consistent with the laws governing the management of
>>> those Federal land and this subtitle.
>>>
>>> It's not a total prohibition.
>>>
>>> BTW, it is BAD FORM to copy an email loaded with the email addresses of
>>> other folks.
>>>
>>> GcB
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com
>>>> [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Lawrence Bull
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:18 PM
>>>> To: Andre Bourque; Rockhounds; Ron Hammeron
>>>> Subject: [Rockhounds] FW: FOSSIL HUNTING HOBBY IN DANGER Fw:
>>>> Public LandUsage Bills
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ....
>>>
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>
> -- 
> Rick Trapp
> Geologist/IT Manager, Arizona Geological Survey
> rick.trapp at azgs.az.gov
>
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