[Rockhounds] Wow! Willemite in a Septarian nodule

Axel Emmermann axel.emmermann at pandora.be
Tue May 20 02:06:24 PDT 2008


Hi Don & all.

This guy has indeed an attitude that doesn't fit in with serious collectors.
He is wrong about almost everything that he says (I wish that "many if not
all calcites" would fluoresce under SW like he claims)...
He's also very vague about the locality, Southern Utah, and this bothers me
most. I live in Belgium, a small country about the size of Maine that will
fit in Utah about 6.5 times and I wouldn't dream of selling someone a
specimen from "the South of Belgium".
I think we can all safely assume that this ill-informed (qua merchandise,
mineralogy AND qua manners) seller is selling a calcite-filled septaria.
I have two specimens that look exactly like the one that he offers and both
are from Muddy Creek, Orderville, Kane Co., Utah, USA, which is indeed in
the South of the state. 
In my view, the most beautiful specimen of the rarest mineral isn't worth a
dime without a proper description of the locality. 

Cheers
Axel





> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com 
> [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com] Namens DonH
> Verzonden: dinsdag 20 mei 2008 5:17
> Aan: John Teague; Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for 
> rock and gem collectors
> Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] Wow! Willemite in a Septarian nodule
> 
> John Teague wrote:
> 
> > Here is a "response" that I received from "kenrockncoins" 
> concerning my questioning the willemite/calcite:
> 
> I've got that one beat.  Here is his response to my helpful message:
> 
> "Read the auction buttmunch, it's been revised. blockhead!"
> 
> Oh, and this applies to all of us, I suppose, since he has it 
> posted in the auction listing:
> 
> "Nope, I made simple mistake with willemite included in the 
> description, my son answered questions concerning it while I 
> was at work today. The description needed to be repaired and 
> has been to the best of my abilities with real bidders. The 
> bunch of folks in the newsgroups with nothing better to do 
> than to diatribe over it blew it way out of proportion, as 
> lonely people tend to do. It's not willemite and just a plain 
> old septarian. PS, Many if not all calcites do fluoresce 
> under shortwave UV lighting."
> 
> I reported this to eBay.  Usually when I report hostile 
> e-mails, the account gets suspended, and this guy sure deserves it.
> 
> The bottom line is that eBay is an open marketplace and we 
> shouldn't be surprised to see mislabeled or misrepresented 
> items, whether the problem is intentional or accidental.
> 
> 
> 
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