[Rockhounds] Volcanos, earthquakes and things

[Kreigh Tomaszewski]

Axel,

Almost any rock will generate p-holes when stressed according to
Friedemann Freund at NASA. The p-holes migrate to the surface and give
rise to earthquake lights and other effects. If there is a current path
(such as groundwater) a 'battery' can form, and the current flow can
generate ELF/ULF radio signals to warn of a pending earthquake from the
increasing rock stress.

A couple days ago Friedemann posted some of his papers on this to a
working group on an earthquake precursor research List we have both been
part of for years. You can download the five PDF files at

	http://www.da4e.nl/download/Friedemann/

It is not necessary to invoke quartz, piezoelectricity, or electrons
when mobile p-holes can carry the charge.

The advantage of using ELF/ULF precursor signals is that only three
receiving stations are needed to cover the earth. The expensive part is
setting up highly accurate time syncronization between the stations so
that triangulation can be done on speed of light signals. 

The main difficulty is filtering out the relevant precursor signals from
all the other radio signal noise generated in the low frequency ranges
by the Earth, Sun, and the universe at large. BTW, many single station
'observatories' have captured clear precursor signals ranging from
minutes to about 72 hours in advance of an earthquake (average of about
an hour to half a day warning).

There is strong evidence that snakes, and birds (and most other animals
to a lesser extent), can sense the p-hole charges. China has set up
snake farms and monitors them (and zoos) to warn of earthquakes. The
snakes exit their dens and try to escape to open ground a few hours
before an earthquake. Lost dog and cat reports spike shortly before an
earthquake.

Some humans can 'hear' the precursor signals and even sense direction.
The presumed method is that the radio signals affect the magnetite that
most animals have in their inner ear cells. The magnetite in the ear of
birds is how they can navigate in the earth's magnetic field; birds can
migrate because they have a compass in their head. It probably explains
humans that have a 'sense of direction'. BTW, the magnetite helps you
know which way is 'up'.

It never ceases to amaze me where the pursuit of our shared hobby of
Rockhounding leads me to. I hope some of this info I've found is useful
to you.

Kreigh






Axel Emmermann wrote:
> 
> Hi Kreigh & Kitty & all,
> 
> I'm gathering data for a speech on the subject for my club. A somewhat
> frivolous speech since none of the below has been confirmed by solid
> research as far as I know. More like exploring an idea than a real speech
> ;-)))
> 
> It seems that compression of quartz bearing rock layers generates the
> cumulative effect of the piezo-electric field of billions of tiny quartz
> crystals.
> The reason for this is that quartz crystals grow with their c-axis aligned
> with the earth's gravitational field. So , any plutonite with micro-crystals
> of quartz would have those crystals aligned following it's orientation to
> the earth's axis at the time it solidified. Pressure on the rock in the
> direction of the c-axis of the crystals would generate tiny electric fields
> round each crystal. The effect (although I think that it still needs some
> proof) may be the cause of the so called quake-lights. It may even be strong
> enough to directly influence sensory perception and cause hallucinations in
> persons that are susceptible to it: UFO sightings, alien abduction stories,
> ghost apparitions, feelings of anxiety, elfs, cobolds... A lot of myth and
> perhaps even man's inclination to religion and mysticism may have begun
> here.
> 
> In this respect I would find it logical that if seismic disturbance creates
> strong electrical fields it also causes ELF/VLF emissions.
> 
> I'm still looking for a way to measure flutuations of the elctric field of
> quartz bearing rock when compressed near breaking point. ;-)))
> 
> I'd like the opinion of a geologist on this one very much.
> 
> Cheers
> Axel
> 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com
> > [mailto:rockhounds-bounces at lists.drizzle.com] Namens Kreigh
> > Tomaszewski
> > Verzonden: dinsdag 8 januari 2008 5:39
> > Aan: Rockhounds at drizzle.com: A mailing list for rock and gem
> > collectors
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Rockhounds] Volcanos, earthquakes and things
> >
> > Kitty,
> >
> > Most earthquake researchers tend to agree that each
> > earthquake reduces stress locally, but transfers it to
> > adjacent regions. NASA has a pretty good predictive system if
> > you care about where but not when. It continues to get better.
> >
> > There is also good evidence that earthquakes emit ELF/VLF
> > radio signals hours to days before, and also during, the
> > seismic event. I know of several groups working to make this
> > reliable. Even minutes of warning for an earthquake would
> > save many lives.
> >
> > If you are at all interested in earthquakes I suggest you visit
> >
> >       http://www.iris.edu/seismon/
> >
> > The global view is a great summary, but you can drill down to
> > raw data from most of the seismic stations in the world. It
> > is a great resource.
> >
> > Kreigh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kitty & Bill Heacox wrote:
> > >
> > > I remember as a young child (more than half a century ago)
> > asking my
> > > parents why it seemed that when there was an earthquake on
> > one side of
> > > the world there often was another one soon after on the
> > other side of
> > > the world.  My father (who was an electrical engineer at Bell
> > > Labs) said it was just coincidence.  My mom (who was the Franklin
> > > fluorescent mineral fan, but with no college education) used the
> > > opportunity to show me a globe and see that some of those
> > events that
> > > I thought were directly opposite, were not (we often forget
> > how truly
> > > large the Pacific Ocean is!).   I had actually thought maybe there
> > > was a kind of slosh effect from the liquid magma in the
> > center of the
> > > earth.  My dad simply laughed, and my mom said it was a
> > good idea but
> > > scientists hadn't talked about it.
> > >
> > > Now, JR & Martha, here is a copy of part of an email I sent
> > just this
> > > last August 16.  I sent it to a friend of ours, George Polman, a
> > > geologist and fluorescent mineral dealer, after he asked
> > how we were
> > > doing after news of a hurricane heading for Hawaii:
> > >
> > > <Yeah, we've had a scary several days here on the Big Island.
> > > Hurricane Flossie actually petered out last night leaving
> > only a lot
> > > of rain and high surf---and frayed nerves.  Then yesterday we had a
> > > few hours of worry about a potential tsunami caused by the
> > earthquake
> > > in Peru, which also turned out not to happen.  And we've had three
> > > earthquakes here this week, the last was at 3 this morning at 4.5
> > > intensity.  Do you have any ideas as a geologist if there is any
> > > connection between earthquakes around the world?  August 8: Java
> > > - 7.6, August 12: Spain- 5.4, August 13: Kilauea 5.4,
> > August 15: Peru
> > > - 7.9, August 16: Kilauea 4.5.  I'd imagine the ones here are
> > > different because they are due to magma shifting.  As for other
> > > volcanoes:  Philippines' Bulusan July 31, Indonesia's
> > Sulawesi August
> > > 14, and Alaska's Cleveland in the Aleutians is beginning to
> > act up a
> > > bit.  What do you think? >
> > >
> > > His answer was that there was no evidence that he knew of
> > to connect
> > > earthquakes in different locations.
> > >
> > > Aloha, Kitty
> > >
> > > At 03:42 PM 1/6/2008, you wrote:
> > > >Hi:
> > > >
> > > >Well, Martha got a book about the 1906 SF earthquake,
> > which is loaded
> > > >with geo facts.  She reads me some of the factoids that
> > strike her as
> > > >interesting or surprising.
> > > >
> > > >One recent one was that there was a huge volcanic eruption
> > (Vesuvius
> > > >I think?) 17 days before the 'quake. Then today on one of the news
> > > >shows there was a mention of someone being killed in an
> > eruption.  We
> > > >didn't catch where, so she said "Google it" so I did.
> > > >
> > > >Much to my surprise, there were a lot of new volcanic eruptions in
> > > >the news today!  One was in Chile, where they were
> > rescuing tourists,
> > > >and one was in the Red Sea, near Yemen, where they talked
> > about how
> > > >bright the glow was from the lava.  I think there were
> > others too...
> > > >
> > > >Should I be strapping the bookcases to the wall?  I'm being
> > > >deliberately - what's the word, maybe obtuse? - here, but
> > isn't it a
> > > >little odd to have several volcanoes go off at once?
> > > >
> > > >I'm in WV, where there are several thousand feet of stable
> > > >sedimentary rock between me and the real basement.
> > > >
> > > >I did feel an earthquake here once, 3.? on the Richter
> > scale, while I
> > > >was driving on a bridge over the Kanawha River, I thought
> > a towboat
> > > >had hit a bridge pier - it wasn't too long after the Silver Bridge
> > > >collapsed.  It would have been really scary in an underground coal
> > > >mine, you bet!
> > > >
> > > >Speaking of Richter, Martha tells me (the earthquake book says) he
> > > >was an avid nudist and famously sexually active - I guess that's
> > > >easier in California.  Is there some famous geo-gossip about him
> > > >beyond his work on earthquakes?
> > > >
> > > >JR
> >