[Rockhounds] netiquette topic, Holy Cow!

[R. Adney Jr.]

HOLY COW!!!!

I would have never imagined that my lack of knowledge of the multiple locations (other than Oregon) for "Stinking Water Plume Agate" would have brought on this level of discussion.  Being a relative "newbie" I will not cop an attitude, feel condescended upon or feel foolish for making a mistake....  oh wait, yes I will!

I will take the discussion as helpful information, and go on from here, far from here.  To another group.  Less Elite.

This is the second time I've been condescended upon here.  And the last.  Disrespect me once shame on you, disrespect me twice shame on me.  

The " Lacy Underwear Agate" comment, was the last straw.

This group has too many members who are far too perfect, way too knowledgeable and far too arrogant for regular folks.    

>From now on you should make all the rules PERFECTLY clear to new list members prior to the "newbies" deciding whether to join permanently.  Make sure they know that instead of a personal email, suggesting how to post in the future, be certain that they know they will be made to look foolish in front of everyone on the list.  

Remove me from the list.  


> From: Kreigh at tomaszewski.net
> To: rockhounds at lists.drizzle.com
> Subject: Re: [Rockhounds] netiquette topic
> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:43:23 -0400
> 
> Dennis,
> 
> I remember the discussion. I think the primary intent was to provide
> context information (country, state, county, city) about a locality so
> that list members could decide if the posting was relevant to them. One
> of the most common questions seen after a locality is mentioned is 'what
> state/country are you talking about?'.
> 
> If you are cataloging a specimen into your collection, the locality is
> the most important information you have about the specimen, and you want
> it to be as detailed as possible. You need to be able to get back to
> where you collected it, or to send some other collector/researcher back
> to the same spot long after you have passed on.
> 
> Your detailed information may need to be passed on to another collector
> from a list question honestly asked with a clear personal need for the
> data. It would be your call to publish it, be silent, or take the
> discussion off-list. Your effort/cost in finding the details is a big
> factor in your decision.
> 
> Most list postings of localities probably should emulate 'XYZ Mine, near
> City, County/Region/Province, State (Country)'. GPS coordinates or
> driving directions to the .1 mile are usually unnecessary or
> inappropriate. You want to clearly identify the locality, and its
> context, to get your question or point across, without opening the door
> for looters to walk in and get the location closed.
> 
> Kreigh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Buffenmyer wrote:
> > 
> > Al Balmer wrote:
> > 
> > >On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 15:12:58 -0400, "Ted Kowalski"
> > ><Ted at crystalgems.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>So, please please please; be detailed and as specific as you can when
> > >>discussing any mineral or rock locality. Assume that no mineral location is
> > >>common knowledge and include sufficient location information; for example,
> > >>country, state, city, town, county, parish, township, mountain range,
> > >>whatever...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >I wholeheartedly agree. Even if it's a secret, and you just want to
> > >brag without revealing the location, say so. Don't let us speculate.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Based on the responses I have seen posted, I suppose I would only have
> > to offer defense to the unpoplar idea of not being terribly specific. I
> > would agree that when asking info about a particular site to be as
> > specific as you are able but.;. I understand that sometimes a person
> > doesn't even know enough to properly ask the question.
> > I think we all agree that this hobby has a monetary figure attached to
> > it, and as such  I can not abide with the idea that I have to publicly
> > provide the gps co-ordinates to "the pot of gold".  I have in many cases
> > painstakingly researched a locality through use of public forums,
> > referances and documentation to find the info I am looking for. This
> > only adds to the value of the knowledge gained. To have this info given
> > "on demand" seems to take away the value of both the knowledge and the
> > hobby.
> > I understand the need to keep the traffic to a minimum with a forum such
> > as this, but I suspect a question with vague specifics may be addressing
> > a more "local to the questioner " audience. Personally; I can choose to
> > ignore or respond to any topic I see in my inbox.
> > Apologies if I am being "unpopular" just offering defense to those who
> > may feel unsupported or who would now not bother to even pose the
> > question they were thinking of asking.
> > Dennis Buffenmyer
> 
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