[Muscle] Gemalto .NET APDU help

[Michael Bender]

Hi,
   Has anyone worked with a Gemalto .NET card without the .NET  
framework?
I am trying to use the card at the APDU level and from what I've been  
reading,
the card only responds to two APDUs and those are really designed to  
transport
the Microsoft .NET "remoting" protocol over the wire. I would like a  
way to extract
a unique ID from the card (a serial number is fine, no requirement  
that the ID is
bound to a user identity) and from what I've been able to find out so  
far, there is
a card serial number that can be extracted from the card, but it's in  
a big XML
blob that the card will only give you if you speak the correct parts  
of the .NET
remoting protocol to it.

thanks,
mike